Sitting down with long time friend and colleague Douglas Bodin, Alex shares his journey from addiction to leadership and how the questions he asked at 19 shaped the recovery programs he leads today. Alex also shares why meaningful work matters, why families need support too, and how compassion for parents can transform recovery. A deeply human conversation about integrity, purpose, and living in alignment with who you truly are.

Preparing young adults for real-world sobriety means helping them build the skills and confidence to navigate life independently. That includes vocational programming, part-time work, appropriate parental support, and opportunities to experience failure, learn from it, and work through challenges. In this conversation with Hope Stream's Brenda Zane, both Alex and Cannon stress the importance of a vocational program and how it impacts young adults in recovery.

Listen to this episode of Success is Subjective hosted and created by Joanna Lilley, MA, NCC from Lilley Consulting. This episode focuses on the real-life experience of The Grounds alumni, Evan, who provides his perspective on his treatment journey as an adolescent into early adulthood. This episode is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you listen to podcasts.